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Steve Nash is a Hypocrite, and He Should Be Suspended

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Updated: November 7, 2007



UPDATE: Found the clip of Nash tripping Felton.

Remember all that whining the Suns did last playoffs? Well, most of it revolved around Amare Stoudemire and Boris Diaw getting suspended. But….

*Side Rant* The rules for leaving the bench were implemented for a reason, a good reason. No exceptions should be made. Period.

And good for Commissioner Stern for not putting the rule up for discussion on the agenda for NBA owner meetings. For one, officials can’t always determine intentions when a player leaves the bench. But more importantly, neither can other players already involved in a potential situation. Plain and simple, fisticuffs in NBA basketball games have the ability to be defused easier and more quickly when you limit the possible number of players involved. And if the boundaries are broken, punishment should be handed down, no question.

But back to the Canadian.

I really don’t believe Bruce Bowen’s step-in on Nash last year…where there was incidental contact between Bowen’s left leg and Nash’s crotch…was that bad. Used to be, if someone was up in your sh*t on defense, you took the ball through their nose. Bruce Bowen has displayed many dirty defensive “tricks” in the past….but his reputation doesn’t always have to precede itself and translate to assumptions about every one of his questionable plays. So yea, call an offensive foul on Bruce in this instance…but otherwise, chill out.

And Robert Horry’s hip check
. Bad foul, shouldn’t have happened. Call a technical, flagrant…whatever. But the reactions? Save that for TNT’s non-NBA programming. They know it.

Well…I wasn’t watching the Charlotte Bobcats – Phoenix Suns game last night when it happened, but I did catch the highlights and a brief discussion on ESPN’s NBA Nation. Of course, the Suns were up 30+ when this happened…

….but Ray Felton drove the lane, easily getting past with a spin move Nash as most do; Steve Nash was knocked off balance, but clearly stuck out his leg tripping Felton, who went down very hard, in the process. Ray was able to shoot the FTs, but got taken to the training room after that. Thankfully today, MRI reports say that Felton’s knee should be okay.

Unfortunately, I can’t find a link to the clip yet….and I’d really like to see the play a couple more times for an in depth breakdown. But I know what I saw, and what I saw looked much more intentional that Bowen’s knee to the crotch. (and I know that you’re asking yourself, why were either of these guys in the game anyway?….irrelevant)

UPDATE: Found the clip of Nash tripping Felton, I think the evidence is conclusive.

Now, I really respect Steve Nash’s ability. And I’m fairly confident that he deserved those MVP awards. But he’s not the innocent white cream pie that people perceive him to be. He’s a warrior, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be dirty too. He’s just a little more deceptive and smart about it than others. Think John Stockton.

Verdict: 1 game suspension….and yes, “hypocrite” maaay be a little harsh, then again, maybe not.

If anyone disagrees, I’d like to know why his foot was that high in the air and reaching back…..and if I’m totally off-base and wrong on this one, I will apologize.

BTW…interesting discussion on Yahoo! Answers….someone posed the question on whether Nash’s trip on Felton was intentional or not.



21 Comments

  1. iwatchthenba

    November 8, 2007 at 8:12 pm

    I’m not even a Nash fan and that doesn’t look intentional to me. What I see is Nash getting beat on defense and him trying to regain his position, only Felton was already WAY past him and all Nash could do was get a leg up. I think a front-side view is needed here, cause from the backside, you can’t tell where Nash was intending to go. Basically, I think Nash was just doing a terrible job of trying to regain his position.

  2. Newspeak

    November 9, 2007 at 2:31 am

    And how does trying to ‘catch up’ by lifting your leg up so high work? I’ll tell you how, it trips up the opposing player…

  3. Anonymous

    November 9, 2007 at 5:32 am

    You’re just a hater. Why would Nash even try a dirty play if they were up 30+. And besides, unlike the San Antonio Sterns, as soon as the whistle blew Nash raised his hand to declare responsibility, unlike the Spurs whose eyeballs pop out every time they are called for the foul.

  4. Newspeak

    November 9, 2007 at 6:20 am

    Yeah… a hater… right? And you know this with experience, I’m sure. I call it the way I see it, and its in plain view, on many replays in slow motion. He got beat by Felton, and he didn’t wanna look bad so he thought he’d trip him up and make him stumble so he can take away the bucket. If you are up by so much, why not just let him go? Why does the leg come up? To gain his balance so he can try to get back in front of him? Why not let the other defenders get in his way? If they had such a good cushion and he broke Nash down, let him get the bucket, it’s not like they were going to win the game from that bucket. It’s called an ego, you need to check yours. Raising his hand after the foul, huh? So obviously he knew what he did, right? You proved my point… Thank you.

  5. Newspeak

    November 9, 2007 at 6:20 am

    Yeah… a hater… right? And you know this with experience, I’m sure. I call it the way I see it, and its in plain view, on many replays in slow motion. He got beat by Felton, and he didn’t wanna look bad so he thought he’d trip him up and make him stumble so he can take away the bucket. If you are up by so much, why not just let him go? Why does the leg come up? To gain his balance so he can try to get back in front of him? Why not let the other defenders get in his way? If they had such a good cushion and he broke Nash down, let him get the bucket, it’s not like they were going to win the game from that bucket. It’s called an ego, you need to check yours. Raising his hand after the foul, huh? So obviously he knew what he did, right? You proved my point… Thank you.

  6. Anonymous

    November 9, 2007 at 7:24 am

    The difference is that when you make a mistake/contact, intentional or not; you admit it.
    Nash did just that.
    Bowen would not.

  7. Anonymous

    November 9, 2007 at 9:21 am

    Are you guys serious?

    It looks like Nash tripped the guy. It appears it was on purpose. That’s bad. BUT…Unless you are going to show me proof of this happenening time and time again, which I can tell you from watching Nash over the years that you most certainly won’t find it, then stop freaking out and insisting he’s a dirty player. The guy got beat on defense and made a stupid move without thinking to try and compensate for it. I say without thinking because there’s no way a decent NBA player, let alone a 2-time MVP, trips a guy (possibly injuring him) when they are already up by thirty. There’s simply no reason on earth for Nash to trip Felton here, so either he was just trying to regain position(which even I don’t think is very likely) or else he simply made a stupid split-second decision. You don’t try to hurt guys late in a blowout, you do it early in the game or late in a close game. If you look at the players around the league that are dirty, you’ll see that even they aren’t knocking guys down in 20+ point blowouts, they are hurting guys early in games or late in close games. In other words, get over it you drama queens. Nash reaching back and tripping a guy in a situation where it makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE to do so doesn’t make him “dirty” any more than missing a shot makes Kobe Bryant a terrible shooter.

  8. Newspeak

    November 10, 2007 at 12:12 am

    I find this truly humorous… I usually wouldn’t discuss a dirty play/player with someone who actually condones it being done early or late in the game… obviously you believe in dirty tactics. And you support Steve Nash… hey that’s great. More power to you, but all you did was tarnish your point of view by stating that a dirty play early or late in the game is valid. Listen buddy, a dirty play is a dirty play, no matter when it happens, and you condoning these acts is something you should really think about, cause you are a disgrace. And honestly, go watch the playoffs from the last 2-3 years for me please, and don’t just look at the bouncing ball… look at the way they defend… look at the way they set the supposed ‘picks’ and for some reason or another they will include a stiff swing of the shoulder into the defender as he tries to go around or fight through the pick. Quit being so blind. Oh another one, Nash as you know is a soccer player, if you can find and watch game 1 against the Lakers (I believe it was the first half, 5-6 minutes into either the 1st or 2nd quarter), you can clearly see on a fast break with Kobe guarding Nash as he was going for a lay up went for a real SWIFT kick to the GROIN. I had this recorded on my DVR and watched the replay many times, you could clearly see his leg in the air not moving for a sustained amount of time, but as soon as he got close enough for some contact on Kobe there was a good kick to the nuts thats very clear to see. Don’t believe me? I’m sure you’ll be able to find that game somewhere, if not that exact footage… as I was saying about soccer, he sure knows a trick or two with his feet.

  9. Newspeak

    November 10, 2007 at 12:15 am

    Bruce Bowen was not the one to trip up Raymond Felton. Please hold your disdain for one player as we discuss the tactics of this dirty player you seem to want to hold up on a platform, and congratulate for his attempt to claim his stake in the foul, intended foul. He did not need to trip him, so why did he?

  10. Newspeak

    November 10, 2007 at 12:25 am

    Oh yeah, how can you forget… Raja Bell… The infamous clothes line to Kobe Bryant… I mean, that’s another player all together… but still the same team. They all learn from the leaders of the pack, Nash and D’antoni, I can’t trust him and his sleazy mustache.

  11. Newspeak

    November 10, 2007 at 10:57 pm

    Aiiight you want your proof??? I got your proof… speaking of that kick from Nash to Kobe in the playoffs… I found that link. And my bad, I guess it wasn’t in games 1 or 2… but here you go, enjoy!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9BcqV_bwXY

  12. Newspeak

    November 10, 2007 at 10:57 pm

    Aiiight you want your proof??? I got your proof… speaking of that kick from Nash to Kobe in the playoffs… I found that link. And my bad, I guess it wasn’t in games 1 or 2… but here you go, enjoy!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9BcqV_bwXY

  13. Anonymous

    November 10, 2007 at 11:42 pm

    looks like the suns fan is now in hiding. with that shot on kobe, it looks like the jury is starting to come in on stevie boy.

    do not get me wrong, i like nash, watched him when he was with the mavs.

    the shot he took from horry, it was an acting job. now horry commited the foul be all means, but it was not as hard as what nash made it out to be.

  14. Newspeak

    November 11, 2007 at 12:01 am

    Yeah I mean, look at his body and how Horry came into contact with him, yeah he shoved him in essence, and that was a foul… but the dude tried to sell 10 lbs. of shit in a 5 lbs. bag, it’s real funny how when he gets fouled he tries to sell it to the fullest, yet if he does something to someone else, it’s like it should never be spoken of or acknowledged. Yeah he might of raised up his hand after this dirty play, but I’m speaking of the other countless dirty plays he commits. He’ll whine like there’s no tomorrow. And now that I think about it, I believe I’ve seen him trying to trip up some other people in the past as well… Not as high of a kick, but certainly sticking his feet where they don’t belong as a player moves past him…

  15. Anonymous

    November 11, 2007 at 12:23 am

    he did it when he was here with the mavs. and now that he is with the suns (running and gunning and having fun)cause he does not play any D. he can’t, they do not call it like they did when he was here.

    why? because the NBA wants him to succeed in PHX. it would be good for the game if a run and gun team won. then more teams might play like that and boost attendence.

  16. Newspeak

    November 11, 2007 at 1:39 am

    I def understand that, they do want him to succeed in Phoenix so they can try to boost ratings and attendance. That’s why he hasn’t been reprimanded, that’s why he’s perceived as the golden boy.

  17. Anonymous

    November 11, 2007 at 5:13 am

    I’d say Nash kicked out with his left leg to balance himself as much as anything because his right ankle was about to give. At worst, I’d say he temporarily forgot which sport he was playing after his usual summer of soccer in New York City and used his legs more than he should have, resulting in an unfortunate foul.

    Either way, I’m quite certain it wasn’t intentional because Nash A) doesn’t go around kicking people even when he’s playing soccer and B) he and Felton are friends. They’re not only represented by the same agent — Bill Duffy — but Felton participated in two Nash charity events over the summer.

  18. Anonymous

    November 11, 2007 at 6:29 am

    watch the clip focusing on felton’s legs only. you’ll notice that while running past nash, his foot catches nash’s foot and drags it along. i think felton was the one who caught himself up. i think you all need to calm down.

  19. Laust

    November 11, 2007 at 10:28 pm

    c’mon!! it’s not like it’s the first time nash has used his legs on a play. remember that game against chicago last season, where he kicks out at ben gordon on the game-winning play, as gordon runs to the right of nash’s screen.. here’s a link to a clip of the play. keep your eye on nash and that left leg of his…:

    http://www.youtube< /a>. com/watch?v=oVchwrpd S7Q

    if for some reason the link doesn’t work, just search youtube for “leandro barbosa game winner”
    i think nash’s reaction to try to stop felton is natural, as in he doesn’t think about what he’s doing in that split second.. but also, in the heat of the game, nash is not thinking “oh, this is my buddy ray-ray, i’ll let him get ot the basket, i mean for chrissake, we also have the same agen and he played in my charity game…”
    also, you can’t really argue that nash would’ve fallen if he hadn’t put his leg out. putting your leg out in the air like that, doesn’t give you any balance, it’s gotta put even more weight/pressure on your right foot. he doesn’t put’s his left foot on the ground and gains no balance on his left leg, and yet he doesn’t fall on the play..
    i’m a big nash fan, and i think it’s somewhat cool that he can get away with this stuff. it’s clever. nash doesn’t wan’t anybody to get injured – he just want ot win every single game above anything else..

  20. Trexxxx

    December 8, 2007 at 5:03 pm

    Yea he stuck his leg up high an tripped the man,but the guy really hurt himself by trying to fall like that i mean it was a dirty play.Last year nash really did’nt say too much bout the hit from bowen,but the hit he took from horry was wourse that that.Nash looked right where he stuck his leg very intential,but he plays like everyone else in this league an everyone plays dirty from time to time.

  21. awrllk

    January 19, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    dude newspeak why are you so obsessed with hating nash lol. your arguments are invalid and just downright elementary. you can’t trust the “sleazy mustache”?? the hell does that have anything to do with nash being a dirty player??! and your theory that nash overreacted to horry’s body check is first of all stupid, as horry is at least 70 lbs heavier than nash and would definitely have sent him sprawling the way he did. also it would make a lot of sense to overreact during a flagrant foul if your team is down by 2 in the final possession of a playoff game and you’ve got the ball in your hands. you would probably want to milk the foul for all it’s worth, which is not necessarily what nash tried to do either. seems to me like you’ve got some personal grudge against him. what, you don’t like canadians? don’t like the suns cause they beat your sorry ass team all day? or worst of all, are you a spurs fan??

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