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Ronny Turiaf to the Washington Wizards? What Do You Think?

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Updated: December 10, 2011

[UPDATE ON TRADE, via Washington Wizards press release: "...they have acquired forward/center Ronny Turiaf, a 2013 second round pick and cash considerations from the New York Knicks along with a 2012 second round pick from the Dallas Mavericks.  The three-team deal also sends Tyson Chandler, the rights to Ahmad Nivins and the rights to Giorgos Printezis from Dallas to New York while the Mavericks will receive Andy Rautins from the Knicks and a 2012 protected second round pick from the Wizards." NOTE: cash considerations is likely $3 million, max allowed by rule.]

Accountability. That’s exactly what Ronny Turiaf brings to the Washington Wizards as they finalize a trade for the 6-10, 245 lbs. big man with the New York Knicks. Accountability and, per the video above, crazy reactions. Oh, and also, Ernie Grunfeld once again uses cap space to make out like a bandit, so it seems.

Turiaf is a 28-year old veteran (29 in January) of six NBA seasons and 358 games. In terms of size (between 6-9 and 6-11), experience (over 300 NBA games, 30 or younger), and the statistical metric, PER (between 14.2 and  14.4), Turiaf’s career could compare to the likes of Danny Schayes, Mel Turpin, LaSalle Thompson, Jahidi White or Jeff Foster. [stats via Basketball-Reference.com]

Okay, so those comparisons aren’t exactly ones to get enthused over. But what do you expect? All of the aforementioned were serviceable bench big men at one time or another in their careers, but with Turiaf, there are caveats. First, a disclaimer: Marc Berman of the New York Post is reporting that the Knicks would not receive anything in return. In fact, they might be paying the Wizards to take Turiaf off their hands. Why? New York is about to sign Tyson Chandler, and they would like to clear Turiaf’s $4.36 million salary off of their books. That salary only lasts through this 2011-12 season. The Washington Post’s Michael Lee reports on Twitter that the Wizards are possibly giving up a second round draft pick, but that could easily be similar to the non-conditional pick Grunfeld gave the Sacramento Kings for taking Dominic McGuire’s salary off Washington’s hands in February 2010 (and the Wizards under the salary cap at the time).

What are the Wizards getting? A high-energy, French-speaking big man who plays defense, and most importantly, becomes another body to push around the likes of JaVale McGee, Andray Blatche, and any other youthful Wizard who needs to acquire more accountability in the paint.

The caveats: Turiaf is not that great of a rebounder, but at least his 7.6 career rebounds per 36 minutes is better than Darius Songaila’s 6.6 REB/36. Songaila was a better spread-the-court, pick-and-pop shooter, compared to Turiaf’s general offensive ineptness, but Turiaf makes his shots when he does take him. His career True Shooting Percentage (TS% – a measure of shooting efficiency that factors field-goals, three-pointers and free-throws) is .571, Songaila’s is .538. Also worth nothing under “caveats”: Turiaf is a veteran of open heart surgery. He had it in 2005, not long after the Los Angeles Lakers drafted him, but has recovered nicely since.

In terms of the aforementioned career comparisons, below are the following per 36 minutes career stats for each player: Rebounds/36, TS%, Assists/36, and Blocks/36.

  • Ronny Turiaf
    REB/36: 7.6 – TS%: .571 – BLK/36: 2.8 – AST/36: 3.1
  • Danny Schayes
    REB/36: 9.9 – TS%: .587 – BLK/36: 1.5 – AST/36: 2.3
  • Mel Turpin
    REB/36: 8.7 – TS%: .552 – BLK/36: 1.8 – AST/36: 1.0
  • LaSalle Thompson
    REB/36: 11.7 - TS%: .542 – BLK/36: 1.7 – AST/36: 2.0
  • Jahidi White
    REB/36: 11.8 – TS%: .531 – BLK/36: 2.2 – AST/36: 0.4
  • Jeff Foster
    REB/36: 12.1 – TS%: .525 – BLK/36: 0.6 – AST/36: 1.3

Yes, the rebounding inefficiencies are evident. But other numbers indicate that Turiaf goes after blocked shots, he passes and facilitates the ball, and his TS% is adequate for a man at his position. That .571 TS% would’ve ranked second on the Wizards last season, after Hamady N’diaye (.681 in 80 minutes) and Trevor Booker (.582 in 1,063 minutes), but above JaVale McGee (.566 in 2,193 minutes), and especially above Andray Blatche (.497 in 2,172 minutes) and Kevin Seraphin (.479 in 635 minutes).

OK, defensive stats:

(the relatively non-caveats)

Per 82games.com

  • When Turiaf was on the court for New York last year, the Knicks allowed 6.1 less points per 100 defensive possessions. Of course, New York also scored 7.0 less points per 100 possessions on offense when Turiaf was in the game.
  • His on/off numbers for Effective FG% (minus-3.5%) and Effective FG% Allowed (minus-3.2%) tell similar stories.
  • Offensive rebounding went down 0.5% with Turiaf in the game; Defensive rebounding went up 2.0% when he was on the court.

Synergy Sports Technology reports…

  • Turiaf allowed 0.71 Points Per Possession (PPP) in Isolation defensive against plays that ended in a FGA, TO or FTs (ranked 62nd in NBA).
  • Allowed 0.81 PPP against Post-Up defensive plays (ranked 93rd).
  • Allowed 1.33 PPP against P&R Roll Man defensive plays (ranked 98th).

Finally, HoopData.com relays…

  • In Adjusted PER of centers who appeared in at least 40 games and averaged at least 15 minutes per game last season, Turiaf’s APER stands at a 13.16.
  • This was just below that of Samuel Dalembert (13.66) and DeAndre Jordan (14.46).
  • This was just above the likes of Anthony Tolliver (12.86), Jason Thompson (12.82), Ben Wallace (12.67), Zaza Pachulia (12.53), and the infamous Kwame Brown (12.44).

Final Conclusion?

I give this trade an A-minus. As evidenced by Tweets from Michael Lee (@MrMichaelLee), restricted free agents Hamady N’diaye and Larry Owens were not at training camp on Friday. They have not signed their qualifying offers, but Lee also indicates the trade could clear the way to sign them. Othyus Jeffers, Lee reports, will likely be renounced, as he is still recovering from ACL knee surgery in July. Grunfeld could have another thing or two cooking on the Hibachi, but it seems right now that he’s found a charming option to enhance depth and size of the year’s Wizards.

But what do you think?


  • joe chase

    Great move. Not because of stats. Because RT is a tough, mean, dirty big guy and the soft Wiz need more of that. And he comes from a great college program and brings max energy. Great move. Now sign Mo Evans and Nick Young.

  • http://www.youtube.com/HKISfreak1 Akbar

    I love this trade, we get some toughness that we have been lacking for a long time, and some GREAT defense. Aside from blocks, JaVale is not a very good defensive player, even though he has the potential to be one. Turiaf can add that defense in the middle and hopefully teach some of it to JaVale.

  • Khalil

    This is a good move for the near future. i like this move with the 66 game season. If you look at the East, and you look at the wizards. you see no glaring differences. if our guards play as a collective group we can make a push for a seed. Nick Young please sign… Javale learn not to run the fast break….Andray Blatche your our leader, and we’ve seen 20+ rebound games from you. Leadership and consistency…John wall knows what he needs to do. He said he wants to progress where he can do what derrick rose did… thats win a MVP award

  • James

    Give Ernie all the flack you want… the guy still knows how to pull off train robberies under the guise of NBA trades. Turiaf isn’t much, but he’s what this team needs (defensive minded big) and we got him by swapping 2nd round picks? An absolute steal.

  • RyanSaotome

    I give it an A+ simply because they gave up barely anything for a solid backup center and two 2nd rounders. Whats not to like?

  • http://jsully124 jesse

    how is this trade anything less than an A+ seriously? we are giving up one second round pick in exchange for a veteran backup big who can hopefully help in the locker room and TWO second round picks….i do not understand how the poll has anything other than 100% A’s.

  • Mike

    I hope he knocks the stuffing out of Blache and McGee in practice. They need somebody beating on them and teaching them how to use your size in the NBA. Maybe they will finally learn something.